Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 106

05/03/2007 03:00 PM House HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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03:06:50 PM SB100
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Moved HCS CSSB 100(HES) Out of Committee
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
 HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                               
                          May 3, 2007                                                                                           
                           3:06 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy Wilson, Chair                                                                                              
Representative Anna Fairclough                                                                                                  
Representative Mark Neuman                                                                                                      
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
Representative Berta Gardner                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bob Roses, Vice Chair                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 100                                                                                                             
"An Act  relating to substance  abuse and mental  health disorder                                                               
prevention  and treatment  programs;  and  relating to  long-term                                                               
secure  treatment programs  for persons  with substance  abuse or                                                               
co-occurring substance abuse and mental health disorders."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HCS SB 100(HES) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 100                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: SUBSTANCE ABUSE/MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS                                                                             
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) ELLIS                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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02/28/07       (S)       HES, STA, FIN                                                                                          
03/19/07       (S)       HES AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
03/19/07       (S)       Moved  SB 100 Out of Committee                                                                         
03/19/07       (S)       MINUTE(HES)                                                                                            
03/21/07       (S)       HES RPT  4DP 1NR                                                                                       
03/21/07       (S)       DP: DAVIS, ELTON, THOMAS, DYSON                                                                        
03/21/07       (S)       NR: COWDERY                                                                                            
03/27/07       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
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03/29/07       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BELTZ 211                                                                               
03/29/07       (S)       Moved CSSB 100(STA) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/29/07       (S)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
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03/30/07       (S)       DP: FRENCH                                                                                             
03/30/07       (S)       DNP: BUNDE                                                                                             
03/30/07       (S)       NR: MCGUIRE, STEVENS, GREEN                                                                            
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04/18/07       (S)       DP: HOFFMAN, STEDMAN, ELTON, THOMAS,                                                                   
                         DYSON, HUGGINS, OLSON                                                                                  
04/18/07       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
04/18/07       (S)       Moved CSSB 100(FIN) Out of Committee                                                                   
04/18/07       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
04/25/07       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
04/25/07       (S)       VERSION: CSSB 100(FIN)                                                                                 
04/26/07       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/26/07       (H)       HES                                                                                                    
05/03/07       (H)       HES AT 3:00 PM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR JOHNNY ELLIS                                                                                                            
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented SB 100 as the prime sponsor.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KATE HERRING, staff to Senator Johnny Ellis                                                                                     
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the hearing on SB
100.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
BILL HOGAN, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                                 
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS)                                                                                 
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the hearing on SB
100.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MARGARET LOWE, Trustee                                                                                                          
Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority (AMHTA)                                                                                    
Department of Revenue (DOR)                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of SB 100.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JEFF JESSEE, Chief Executive Officer                                                                                            
Alaska Mental Trust Health Authority (AMHTA)                                                                                    
Department of Revenue                                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of SB 100.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MIKE FORD, Representative                                                                                                       
Alaska Native Health Board                                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of SB 100.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PEGGY WILSON called the  House Health, Education and Social                                                             
Services  Standing  Committee meeting  to  order  at 3:06:17  PM.                                                             
Representatives  Seaton,  Fairclough,  Cissna,  and  Wilson  were                                                               
present  at  the  call  to order.    Representatives  Neuman  and                                                               
Gardner arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SB 100-SUBSTANCE ABUSE/MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:06:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
SENATE  BILL NO.  100, "An  Act relating  to substance  abuse and                                                               
mental  health disorder  prevention and  treatment programs;  and                                                               
relating to long-term secure treatment  programs for persons with                                                               
substance  abuse  or  co-occurring  substance  abuse  and  mental                                                               
health disorders."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:07:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  JOHNNY   ELLIS,  Alaska  State  Legislature,   as  prime                                                               
sponsor,  paraphrased from  a prepared  statement, which  read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Addiction is  taking a heavy  toll on  Alaska's people,                                                                    
     culture and economy.  Alaska  ranks #l in the nation in                                                                    
     alcohol-related  deaths  and  Alaskans  with  substance                                                                    
     abuse  problems, or  co-occurring mental  and substance                                                                    
     abuse disorders, are more likely  to be homeless, spend                                                                    
     time  in correctional  facilities, and  become involved                                                                    
     in  child protective  service  proceedings.   Substance                                                                    
     abuse  tears  apart  families;  in  2004,  81%  of  all                                                                    
     reported harm  against a  child cases  involved illicit                                                                    
     drugs.     The   financial   impact   of  addition   is                                                                    
     staggering,  costing   the  state  an   estimated  $738                                                                    
     million  a year  in health  care cost,  accidents, lost                                                                    
     productivity,   criminal   justice   and   correctional                                                                    
     facilities.  Something must change.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     At  the   same  time,  Alaska  is   falling  behind  in                                                                    
     providing  treatment   to  those   who  need   help  in                                                                    
     overcoming  their  addition.   According  to  the  2002                                                                    
     Integrated Substance  Abuse Treatment  Needs Assessment                                                                    
     for  Alaska,   only  15.6%  of  Alaskans   in  need  of                                                                    
     substance  abuse treatment  received it.   We  can, and                                                                    
     must do better.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Senate Bill  100 proposes several common  sense changes                                                                    
     to Alaska's  statutes regarding drug and  alcohol abuse                                                                    
     in  order  to  improve  the quality  of  an  access  to                                                                    
     treatment and prevention.  The legislation:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Mandates priority treatment  for pregnant women seeking                                                                    
     help in  overcoming addition.   Reducing  the incidence                                                                    
     of  Fetal Alcohol  Spectrum disorders  will save  large                                                                    
     sums of money.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Gives priority to state  grantees who utilize evidence-                                                                    
     based  programming, as  well as  programs that  address                                                                    
     substance abuse  prevention, addiction  within prisons,                                                                    
     among youths and in rural Alaska.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Supports the  Department of Health and  Social Services                                                                    
     in their  efforts to identify people  with co-occurring                                                                    
     mental  and substance  abuse  disorders,  so that  this                                                                    
     population can be better served.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Ensures  that  effective   faith-based  strategies  for                                                                    
     treating substance abuse  are not discriminated against                                                                    
     in statute.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Most  Alaskans have  been touched  by substance  abuse,                                                                    
     whether it  is a  personal struggle with  addiction, or                                                                    
     watching a  friend or relative battle  with this deadly                                                                    
     condition.   I ask you  to support  ... SB 100  and its                                                                    
     common-sense  steps  to  strengthen the  fight  against                                                                    
     drugs and alcohol abuse in our state.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:10:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS pointed out the three updates to existing law that                                                                
are a part of SB 100: mandating that pregnant women receive                                                                     
priority treatment; use of evidence  based treatment programs for                                                               
substance abuse  and the unification  of co-occurring  mental and                                                               
substance abuse disorders; and  the prohibition on discrimination                                                               
against  faith based  programs.   He  stressed the  value of  the                                                               
inclusion of all  types of effective programs  in substance abuse                                                               
treatment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:13:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON   recalled  that   the  committee   has  previously                                                               
identified the  priority of  treatment for  pregnant women  as an                                                               
important recommendation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:13:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER reminded  the committee  of its  previous                                                               
pledge to address the alcohol problems  in the state.  She stated                                                               
her  hope  that, with  the  bill's  priority for  evidence  based                                                               
programming,   there  will   still  be   room  for   experimental                                                               
treatment.    She stated  that  different  programs do  work  for                                                               
different people  and there is much  that is not known  about the                                                               
effective treatment of substance abuse.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:14:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATE  HERRING,  staff  to  Senator  Johnny  Ellis,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  explained  the  different approaches  to  treatment                                                               
which  are included  in the  definitions of  this bill;  evidence                                                               
based, research  based, consensus based, and  promising practices                                                               
treatments.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:15:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  referred to page  7, line 27, of  the bill                                                               
and read:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The  department  may not  fund  a  proposed program  or                                                                    
     project  that has  been  previously  funded under  this                                                                    
     section  unless  the  applicant  provides  satisfactory                                                                    
     evidence of success of the program or project.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  stated his concern  that the success  of a                                                               
program may not  be evident in the first year  and this statement                                                               
appears  to  limit  the  opportunity  for  a  program  to  become                                                               
successful.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.   HERRING  stated   that  the   sponsor  will   work  through                                                               
regulations to make sure this is not a problem.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON pointed  out  that a  statute that  states                                                               
"may not fund" would limit  the program's ability to legally fund                                                               
a program for a second year.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:17:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELLIS stated  that he  had not  read this  language with                                                               
that  strict interpretation.    He presumed  that  the DHSS  will                                                               
allow sufficient time through regulation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:17:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  asked whether  programs are funded  on an                                                               
annual basis; for  example, could funding for a  pilot program be                                                               
authorized for a period of five years.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON noted that the bill says "may" and not "shall."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:18:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH  informed  the committee  that  grants                                                               
usually  are awarded  for multiple  years.   However, she  opined                                                               
that the DHSS would not want  to be limited by this statement and                                                               
real success may not be demonstrated after one year.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:18:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL  HOGAN, Deputy  Commissioner,  Office  of the  Commissioner,                                                               
Department of Health and Social  Services (DHSS), stated that the                                                               
language  does not  say "shall."  He opined  that the  word "may"                                                               
provides the DHSS with some  flexibility about funding a program.                                                               
He  stressed  that  DHSS  is  moving  towards  performance  based                                                               
contracting or  funding, and supported  the language of  the bill                                                               
as it stands.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:19:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA offered  her interpretation,  that "unless                                                               
the applicant  ..." appears to  mean that  if the program  is not                                                               
keeping records  and adhering  to a model,  it would  not receive                                                               
continued funding.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:21:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS opined that this  language is necessary in order to                                                               
build  support  and funding  for  the  bill.   He  recalled  that                                                               
previous legislatures  have cut  funds for treatment  systems due                                                               
to  the  lack   of  missions  and  measures   that  are  standard                                                               
requirements  for   significant  state   government  investments.                                                               
Senator  Ellis  said  that  he   felt  that  the  application  of                                                               
missions, measures and performance  standards by DHSS will ensure                                                               
that treatment programs  measure up and have  a reasonable chance                                                               
of success.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:22:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH asked  whether the  intent of  page 7,                                                               
line 27,  is to  preclude funding if  measurements are  not being                                                               
met.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS  said, "Well, um,  in a single  year.  Is  that, is                                                               
that a condition that your ...."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  said:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Just as  it states,  if a project  ... because  a grant                                                                    
     can  be   awarded  for  one   year,  so  if   it's  not                                                                    
     successful, is  your intent not  to allow them  to have                                                                    
     funding.   Or is  it, you want  the department  to have                                                                    
     latitude  and  that  is  a   condition  that  they  can                                                                    
     consider.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS  expressed his belief  that this language is  to be                                                               
directive, but not too restrictive.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH   suggested  insertion  of   the  word                                                               
"consider"   so line 27  will read, "the department  may consider                                                               
not funding a program ...."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS concurred.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:24:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH  offered  Conceptual Amendment  1,  so                                                               
that line 27 will read,  "The department may consider not funding                                                               
a proposed  program or  project that  has been  previously funded                                                               
under  this section  unless the  applicant provides  satisfactory                                                               
evidence of success of the program or project."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:24:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced that, hearing no objection, Conceptual                                                                   
Amendment 1 was adopted.  She then opened the hearing to public                                                                 
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:24:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARGARET  LOWE, Trustee,  Alaska  Mental  Health Trust  Authority                                                               
(AMHTA), Department of Revenue (DOR),  stated  her support for SB
100,  paraphrasing  from  a prepared  statement,  which  read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Thank you  for the opportunity  to talk with  you about                                                                    
     SB 100.   I have lived  in Alaska for a  very long time                                                                    
     and  I have  seen the  problem of  substance abuse  and                                                                    
     alcohol  addiction continue  to increase  and devastate                                                                    
     lives  of Alaskans.   I  have had  a personal  research                                                                    
     project going for  the past 15 years and of  all of the                                                                    
     instances of  child abuse and  neglect I have  known, I                                                                    
     have not found  one that does not  have substance abuse                                                                    
     as  part  of the  problem,  and  frequently, the  whole                                                                    
     problem.     Improving  life   for  children   is  cost                                                                    
     effective and is a moral responsibility for all of us.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     When I was Commissioner of  HSS we were beginning to be                                                                    
     aware  of   the  commonality  of  mental   illness  and                                                                    
     substance  abuse,  and  now  we  have  established  the                                                                    
     Division of  Behavioral Health to provide  state of the                                                                    
     art  treatment.   We are  in  great need  of much  more                                                                    
     treatment   availability   and    treatment   that   is                                                                    
     appropriate   to  each   person   and  their   personal                                                                    
     situation   -  circumstances   of   mothers  of   young                                                                    
     children, pregnant women, etc.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     I  remember  testifying before  legislative  committees                                                                    
     and being  asked why, with  more money being  spent the                                                                    
     data showed the problem was  growing.  I will say today                                                                    
     what I  said then: we  need to  spend far more  than we                                                                    
     are currently spending:  we need to spend  the money on                                                                    
     treatment  facilities   and  personnel  as   our  basic                                                                    
     approach to  prevention.   With treatment  available we                                                                    
     will  have  parents  and   young  adults  in  recovery,                                                                    
     modeling  health  and  wellness for  our  children  and                                                                    
     parenting children appropriately so  that they learn to                                                                    
     make good choices.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:27:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER commented that,  even with unlimited funds                                                               
and programs  available for  all who  wish to  participate, other                                                               
avenues would  still be needed  to address this problem.  This is                                                               
because treating an  existing problem is only part  of the issue;                                                               
finding the source  of the problem and prevention is  the rest of                                                               
the answer.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:28:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. LOWE  suggested that prevention  will mean that  children are                                                               
raised with good  role models and  treatment of  parents leads to                                                               
increased security  and stability in children's  lives.  Children                                                               
of  parents  under  the  influence   are  abused  and  neglected,                                                               
generating problems for the future.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:29:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF JESSEE, Chief Executive Officer,  Alaska Mental Trust Health                                                               
Authority (AMHTA), Department of  Revenue, stated his support for                                                               
SB  100.   He then  pointed out  that this  bill takes  a similar                                                               
direction as the  AMHTA does now, which is  toward evidence based                                                               
treatment programs.  He stated  that evidence based practices are                                                               
critical  to allow  the  evaluation of  data  from the  substance                                                               
abuse  and  mental  health  programs  so  that  more  intelligent                                                               
allocations of funding  are made.  He  cautioned that measurement                                                               
brings a complexity  into a program, and care must  be taken that                                                               
a  program does  not  manipulate data  for  a favorable  outcome.                                                               
Mr.  Jessee said that the  work on co-occurring disorders is also                                                               
critical  to  address  continuing resistance,  in  the  substance                                                               
abuse  field, to  integrating substance  abuse and  mental health                                                               
into a  behavioral health system.   He opined that the  intent of                                                               
this  legislation is  as important  as policy  guidance from  the                                                               
legislature  that  follows  the  changes made  by  the  executive                                                               
branch.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:31:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH   expressed  her  concern   about  the                                                               
stipulation in  the bill that prioritizes  treatment for pregnant                                                               
women.   She asked whether this  will encourage a women,  who may                                                               
be suffering  from co-existing disorders,  to become  pregnant in                                                               
order to receive services.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:33:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JESSEE said that this is  an interesting problem; in fact, he                                                               
gave an  example of parents  allowing the Division of  Family and                                                               
Youth Services (DFYS) to take custody  of their child in order to                                                               
acquire needed   psychiatric care.   He agreed that  the creation                                                               
of a  priority can create an  incentive for misuse.   However, he                                                               
said that he  is not overly concerned because  a motivated client                                                               
can  get  treatment  without  extreme  measures.  In  fact,  most                                                               
programs already prioritize this population.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:34:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA relayed that,  in her experience working in                                                               
this field, the  effect of alcohol on the brain  would preclude a                                                               
woman's ability to make that decision.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:35:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  recalled   that  previous  testimony  has                                                               
identified  that Fetal  Alcohol Spectrum  Disorder (FASD)  damage                                                               
can happen before a woman is  aware of her pregnancy.  He pointed                                                               
out that the  priority in SB 100 will not  address the problem of                                                               
pre-pregnancy treatment  and awareness that is  needed to prevent                                                               
FASD.  He  reminded members that prevention of FASD  is a concern                                                               
of the committee.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:36:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked whether pregnancy  screening is a routine part                                                               
of substance abuse treatment.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. JESSEE said he did not know.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:37:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER   stated  that  intake  forms   for  some                                                               
programs ask if a woman may be pregnant.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. JESSEE observed that this  discussion points out that alcohol                                                               
addiction   is  treated   differently  than   any  other   health                                                               
condition,  despite  the  fact  that  it  is  the  most  socially                                                               
damaging health  problem.   Society initially  treated alcoholism                                                               
as  a moral  issue.   Today, one  still hears  the argument  that                                                               
treatment doesn't  work, or it is  not effective.  In  fact, many                                                               
treatment  programs can  realize  a 40  percent  success rate  of                                                               
clients  who maintain  abstinence  after one  year.   Mr.  Jessee                                                               
compared this to other health  issues, such as diabetes, and said                                                               
that rates  of success for other  health problems may not  be any                                                               
higher.   Nevertheless, no one  would suggest that  the treatment                                                               
for diabetes should  be restricted.  The  argument continues that                                                               
people choose to drink  and it is not up to  the state to provide                                                               
funds  for  treatment.   However,  insurance  coverage  for  lung                                                               
cancer  treatment  will  always  be funded,  even  though  people                                                               
choose to smoke.   Mr. Jessee concluded that there  needs to be a                                                               
fundamental  review  of  how  society   and  policy  makers  view                                                               
substance abuse.   It is known that alcohol treatment  can make a                                                               
difference in society, yet, funding for treatment is limited.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:41:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  agreed  that  society  collectively  supports  the                                                               
consumption of alcohol.  Smoking  has been accepted by society as                                                               
a health concern, but drinking is still acceptable.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:42:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JESSEE opined that people may  have the freedom to drink.  It                                                               
does not  mean that those  who are affected by  alcoholism should                                                               
not  be assisted  and supported  by treatment  that has  now been                                                               
determined to be effective.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:44:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  opined that smoking  does not cause people  to harm                                                               
others, but drinking does.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:44:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  FORD, Representative,  Alaska Native  Health Board,  stated                                                               
his organization's support  for SB 100, and said that  it is hard                                                               
to  find anyone  who has  not been  touched by  one of  these two                                                               
issues:  substance abuse and  mental health disorders.  He stated                                                               
that  this bill  is a  necessary small  step in  order to  create                                                               
infrastructure.   Statewide clinics fight these  two problems and                                                               
need additional support.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:46:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON closed public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:46:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  moved to report  SB 100, as  amended, out                                                               
of committee with individual  recommendations and attached fiscal                                                               
notes.  There being no objection, HCS SB 100(HES) was reported                                                                  
out of the House Health, Education and Social Services Standing                                                                 
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:46:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON provided instruction to the committee concerning                                                                   
the interim meeting schedule.  The first meeting will be a                                                                      
discussion on the uninsured of Alaska.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:48:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Health, Education and Social Services Standing Committee meeting                                                                
was adjourned at 3:48 p.m.                                                                                                      

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